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Anyone getting the "Carrot Top" effect?

Posted by Mike B on Tuesday, 08-Jan-2008

So, I go through these runs of sticks where they all come off early and I get the carrot top effect. No tobacco near the filter, a lot puffing up out of the top. It's REALLY irritating and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I try more tobacco, I try less, I try filling the corners more, try filling them less. Try fast motion, try slow motion, you get the idea. It's just plain random.

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amber leaf top 5 facts

Posted by i am you on Tuesday, 08-Jan-2008

could ne 1 tell me how many different top 5 facts there are that come with amber leaf????????????????????????????????

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How Many?

Posted by Dave Lers on Tuesday, 18-Dec-2007

AllTALL asked: How many packs, or cigarettes, do you usually get out of a 14oz bag of Windsail?

Its been asked a few times so here are some links (I've never counted):
1oz = 25-30 sticks [link]
1oz = 30 +/- sticks, 6oz = 8-9 packs [link]
14oz = 2+ cartons [link]
14oz = 421 sticks [link]

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Just Started and Curious

Posted by Mike B on Wednesday, 12-Dec-2007

Ok, so although I'm 31 and have been a smoker for 13 years, I never even heard of MYO until this past weekend. I bought a TOP Handheld, some Top premium tubes, and a couple 6oz tins of bugler. I think I'm doing something wrong, though. When I made my first few screwed up smokes, they were actually some of the best sticks I've ever had. However, now that I'm getting the hand of it, my creations taste like almost nothing. I'm getting the tubes full and packed but the draw is ridiculously difficult and It feels like smoking a pre-packaged ultra-lite. Only every now and then, I get the true full flavor effect.

However, I have been an internet hound reading all I can because this is something I know I'm going to enjoy for many years.

Any suggestions on tobacco/tubes to get a better full flavor experience?

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RE:Stuffing

Posted by Jerry on Tuesday, 20-Nov-2007

ok guys i have the top-o-matic using zig-zag tubes (Brand New Machine)it seems that every other one slips off the injector and only puts half of the tobacco in it,Out of A carton I waste 2 packs,could it be that as your rolling the tobacco dries up and get powdery   

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overstuffing

Posted by mike c on Friday, 09-Nov-2007

sitting here smoking a stick my friend made, and noticing it is overpacked
Dave had a mention of this on the forum, don't know if it remains, at any rate I am thinking this may be a more common accident than I realised, since I've been guilty for a while now
be careful
be VERY VERY careful

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Stuffing, my advice

Posted by death1 on Friday, 07-Sep-2007

I finally figured out how to stuff. Put some tobacco in and try and close it. Any resistance enough to move the machine or using 2 hands and its too tight... too tight, remove some using something plastic from the packed side of the machine, till it closes easy. I've been packing them way to tight thinking that I was going easy. Closes to easly... less than a little bump and tobacco falls out easily. I got the hang. Hope this helps. Only took me 12 cartons to figure this out. I'm hard headed meaning, if you can't hit me on the head with it, it doesn't exist.

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U.K. experiences

Posted by Tom Suttie on Tuesday, 14-Aug-2007

    I currently smoke Amber Leaf tobacco, using a El Rey HH injector.
I realise that both the injector and the tobacco may not be familiar to U.S. smokers, especially the tobacco (I am resident in the U.K)

    I seem to have accidentally found the perfect match with the slightly moist tobacco and the El Rey injector. I think that the El Rey is already obtainable in the U.S, but Amber Leaf tobacco not so.
This tobacco is made by Richard Lloyd & Sons which is now part of Imperial Tobacco, who have now taken them over along with Efka, the German makers of the El Rey injector. So hopefully, both the tobacco and injector will soon be available to the U.S. market.

    Amber Leaf is available in the U.K. in 12.5g cigarette size packet, with 50 papers for anyone who wishes to roll - also in 25 and 50g pouches, also with 50 papers for rolling.

    I find the combination a very smooth and mild smoke, and using concept tubes which are not supposed to be used with this machine. U.S users with a taste for stronger tobacco may find Amber Leaf a bit bland, but I cough much less than I used to!

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Quazi Speed test - how long to make a pack

Posted by David Brown on Monday, 09-Jul-2007

I did a short video today to test out Adobe OnLocation CS3 and thought I would do a video showing my excel and I making 20 smokes.

I was amazed I did it under 7 min really not hurrying and after hearing some arguments that MYO isnt worth the time or effort this video should refute that :)

[link]

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McClintock Challenge

Posted by Matt on Monday, 25-Jun-2007


Bought 4 packs of Rollit papers and a can of McClintock FF. Gonna see if I can get the suggested 400 cigarette yield as advertised on the can.

I've been rolling my cigarettes at a 2/3 diameter of a regular smoke and I'm optimistic that I'll be able to get to 400 and more. Only about 3 packs into it and they haven't caused much damage with about an inch or so of a dent in the can.

The claim of "Makes 400 Cigarettes" is accompanied by a picture of couple of filtered smokes. Have any of you been able to stuff 2 cartons from a can of McClintock?

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The tighter the stick.........

Posted by Smokin n Jokin on Wednesday, 20-Jun-2007

The harsher the smoke. Anybody else agree? While sinning my way through a package of the new Camel signature series infusion I noticed that they are packed very light. I don't remember any other premades being packed that loose. Anyhoo...I discovered that I have been packing my sticks way too tight. I should have suspected something when I only got about 14 or 15 sticks out of an ounce of tobacco. I stuffed a stick a lot looser than I usually do in a Vera Cruz elegante tube. When I smoked it it seemed smoother and mellower than usual. I allowed that it might have been because of the tube, I don't use them very often because of the cost. I stuffed one in a regular FF Rizla tube and got the same results, so I decided I've been packing the tobacco too tight. I think this has also caused a lot of my other problems, like the time it takes to make a stick, too much time spent cramming the tobacco in the chamber, and filter voids, the tobacco is packed so tight it can't get through the nozzle.

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How long does it take you to make a pack?

Posted by Matt on Monday, 26-Feb-2007


So I timed myself making 20 cigarettes twice. The first time I made a leisurely pack while listening to an audiobook on the headphones. It was 8:29. The next 20 I made a slight effort to go a little faster and wound up with 5:53. I'm pretty sure I calculated correctly for an avg. of 7:11. Keep in mind I was at a leisurely pace for both of these packs since I find no need to hurry. I guess that's why I've kept with rolling is that it's a leisurely thing to do & is fun if you make it fun. Back to the subject though, how long does it usually take to make a pack for you guys? I could imagine it being done in 3:00 or less if one tried.

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Stuffing How To

The Crank type machines, while there is a learning curve, are pretty easy to use if your machine is properly adjusted and you don't use tobacco that's too moist and/or stuff too much tobacco into the slot.
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Old SYO Forum

See also: Jul '06 to Feb '07 and Oct '03 to Jul '06 archives.
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Filterless Tubes

All the crank machines can stuff filter-less tubes if the tube release is early enough. The Excel doesn't have an adjustable release and requires modification.
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100mm Tubes

Because the 'matics are multi-purpose machines, making 100's on them can be a bit tricky. I'm not a 100's smoker and I have to say its not the easiest way to make a smoke. Careful attention to fully and evenly filling the chamber is required. The size of the tobacco chamber limits the tobacco plug to ~75mm long and you need every bit of that to get a reasonably full end to end fill. Making 100's is also hard on the machine, noticeably more cranking force is required and tobacco moisture content is more critical.
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